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		<title>In God they don&#8217;t vote</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[List of Representatives who voted against adding "In God We Trust" to the Capitol Visitor Center, along with those who didn't vote, and possible reasons why.]]></description>
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<p>As promised, here is an update on the <a title="I Am The Blog" href="http://iamtheblog.com/wordpress2/?p=356" title="I Am The Blog">&quot;In God We Trust&quot; vote</a> . In the Senate, the proposal was accepted by voice vote, so we don&#8217;t have a record of  who did or didn&#8217;t support engraving In God We Trust and The Pledge of Allegiance in the Capitol Visitor Center. Here on <a title="U.S. House of Representatives" href="http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll515.xml" title="U.S. House of Representatives">the House&#8217;s site</a> is the list of Yeas, Nays, Presents, and No Votes for the House vote.</p>
<p>The 8 who voted against it are:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Conyers_Jr.">Conyers (Michigan)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Edwards">Edwards (Maryland)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazie_Hirono">Hirono (Hawaii)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Honda">Honda (California)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_McDermott">McDermott (Washington)</a><br />
<em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul">Paul (Texas)</a> </em><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._Scott">Scott (Virgina)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Stark">Stark (California)</a></p>
<p>Pete Stark (CA) is the only one who is openly atheist. He &quot;came out&quot; on a 2006 <a title="Secular Coalition for America" href="http://www.secular.org/news/pete_stark_070312.html" title="Secular Coalition for America">questionnaire</a> sent by the <a title="Secular Coalition for America" href="http://www.secular.org/" title="Secular Coalition for America">Secular Coalition for America</a> . According to the <a title="Los Angeles Times" href="http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/05/local/me-beliefs5?pg=1" title="Los Angeles Times">LA Times</a> , 22 representatives reported not having a belief in God to the SCA, but asked not to be publicly identified (likely because of the political fallout that might occur among some of their constituents).</p>
<p>Here are the two who voted present (e.g. I&#8217;m here, but am not going to vote either way):</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Farr">Farr (California)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Moran">Moran (VA)</a></p>
<p>Then there were 12 people who were absent from the vote:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Buyer"><em>Buyer (Indiana)</em> </a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_DeLauro"> DeLauro (Connecticut)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcia_Fudge"> Fudge (Ohio)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Granger"><em>Granger (Texas)</em> </a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcy_Kaptur">Kaptur (Ohio)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Larson">Larson (Connecticut)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Linder"><em>Linder (Georgia)</em> </a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_McHenry"><em>McHenry (North Carolina)</em> </a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Murphy_(politician)">Murphy (New York)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Murtha">Murtha (Pennsylvania)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Sherman">Sherman (California)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Stupak">Stupak (Michigan)</a></p>
<p>Besides Stark, I&#8217;m unaware of the professed religious beliefs (or lack thereof) of the others. If I find out, I will update this post. Voting against the In God We Trust / Pledge engravings does not necessarily indicate atheism or freethought; they may simply not want to waste additional tax dollars on the overbudget Visitor Center, for example.</p>
<p>Voting present may mean any number of things, from supporting a bill in general but objecting to some issue in it, to being against it and not wanting to be on the record as voting against it. The <a title="Secular Coalition for America" href="http://www.secular.org/" title="Secular Coalition for America">Secular Coalition for America</a> counts &quot;present&quot; votes as voting the &quot;incorrect&quot; way on bills and resolutions they identify as important. I think that&#8217;s a little unfair, so I&#8217;ll have to look into their ratings a little more. The non-voting members either simply weren&#8217;t there, didn&#8217;t feel it was important enough to vote on, or stayed away on purpose. Unless they state why, there&#8217;s no way to know.</p>
<p>One Rep who Wikipedia identifies, along with Stark, as being a Unitarian Universalist (Congressman <a class="mw-redirect" title="Walter Minnick" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Minnick" title="Walter Minnick" class="mw-redirect">Walter Minnick</a> of Idaho) voted FOR the bill, which goes to show again that UUs, atheists, and others can&#8217;t all be lumped together, as some like to do.</p>
<p>The reasons for voting against the bill or not going on the record either way are varied, and I haven&#8217;t found any statements explaining why from the Representatives who fall in those categories. With increased religious diversity in the Congress, and a number of congresspeople not believing in a higher power, maybe a day will come where it&#8217;s not taboo to speak out against forcing religious on others in the Capitol.</p>
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